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#38 by Eric T. Cheng
2003-03-25 20:07:38
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And BTW, Canada had our share of being a police state thanks to the threat of terrorism.

In October 1970, the British trade commissioner, James Cross, and the Quebec minister of immigration and labour, Pierre Laporte, were kidnapped by the FLQ,  the Front de liberation du Quebec, a terrorist separtist group. From 1963 to 1970, the FLQ planted about 85 bombs and claimed six lives. The kidnappers demanded their jailed brethren be released and their Manifesto be published in newspapers.

In response, the late Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau invoked the War Measures Act, which gave the government the power to suspend civil liberties and the police the power to round up people suspected of being linked to the FLQ without a search warrant and hold people indefinitely without being charged. 465 were rounded up. Quebec City, Ottawa and other parts of Canada was under martial law.

A famous scene involved the CBC reporter Tim Ralfe confronting the PM who responded to questions about the public's reacts to the WMA.

   Trudeau: "There's a lot of bleeding hearts around who just don't like to see people with helmets and guns. All I can say is go on and bleed."

   Tim Ralfe: "How far are you going to go?"

   Trudeau: "Just watch me!"

On October 17th, the body of Pierre Laporte was found stuffed in the trunk of a green Chevrolet. The Quebec minister was choked to death. In December 1970, James Cross was released after his captors were granted a safe passage to Cuba.

This is now know in Canadian history as "The October Crisis."

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#39 by Eric T. Cheng
2003-03-25 20:09:05
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Yes. My God. 9,000,000 people. It was horrible. Didn't the website you read that on have a photo?


No, I couldn't find it. :P

Eric, it was mainly people with expired visas or other problems.


Thank you for clarifying it up. :P

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#40 by yotsuya
2003-03-25 20:11:24
No problem. As much as I like to tease you about it, your knowledge and interest in America and it's politics amazes me.

And disturbs me, as well. :P

Walt Whitman once said, "I see great things in baseball. It's our game, the American game. It will repair our losses and be a blessing to us." You could look it up.
#41 by Creole Ned
2003-03-25 20:12:44
its!!!!!!!

There, the Grammar Nazi's work is done.

"I don't bemoan the great paste" - LPMiller
#42 by Eric T. Cheng
2003-03-25 20:13:41
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No problem. As much as I like to tease you about it, your knowledge and interest in America and it's politics amazes me.

And disturbs me, as well. :P


You're the big brother (no pun intended) to the south. We Canadians can't ignore your influence up here (although we try).

Actually I don't know that much about your politics, at least the inner workings as it's very different from the Canadian parliamentary style of government. I still don't know what a "GOP" is...

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#43 by LPMiller
2003-03-25 20:14:59
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#44 by Your Friend
2003-03-25 20:15:22
"GOP" stands for Grand Old Party, its just a nickname for the Republican Party.

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#45 by yotsuya
2003-03-25 20:16:26
I know, Ned. I cringed as I saw that, right when I clicked post.

PC needs an "Edit Your Post" function...

Walt Whitman once said, "I see great things in baseball. It's our game, the American game. It will repair our losses and be a blessing to us." You could look it up.
#46 by yotsuya
2003-03-25 20:17:21
Yup, Nutty's right. We know all about the Notorious G.O.P.

Walt Whitman once said, "I see great things in baseball. It's our game, the American game. It will repair our losses and be a blessing to us." You could look it up.
#47 by Your Friend
2003-03-25 20:20:26

PC needs an "Edit Your Post" function...


I used to think so too, but reading this changed my mind.  Never gave it too much thought before reading that, but in retrospect I agree with most of the stuff said there.

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#48 by yotsuya
2003-03-25 20:21:44
Nutty-

I really don't want to read that. Care to summarize?

Walt Whitman once said, "I see great things in baseball. It's our game, the American game. It will repair our losses and be a blessing to us." You could look it up.
#49 by Your Friend
2003-03-25 20:22:56

We know all about the Notorious G.O.P.


Straight outta DC.  Da pizzarty dat knows how to take care o' bidznezz.  Its all about da benjamins fo' the G.O.P. Fo' shizzle.

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#50 by Your Friend
2003-03-25 20:24:29
Simple forum software is better.  Features can backfire and impact the forum community.  If people really cared about editing posts they would just do it before hitting the post button.  And some other stuff.

2000/XP is better than Win9x in every way.
#51 by LoneStar
2003-03-25 20:24:30
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I thought it was a good song.

Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one
#52 by yotsuya
2003-03-25 20:25:15
Word up, Nut-TAY!

Walt Whitman once said, "I see great things in baseball. It's our game, the American game. It will repair our losses and be a blessing to us." You could look it up.
#53 by CheesyPoof
2003-03-25 20:30:30
I still don't know what a "GOP" is...

Then start paying attention.  This is not the first time that question was asked and a response provided.
#54 by Caryn
2003-03-25 20:31:33
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#50 Your Friend
Simple forum software is better.  Features can backfire and impact the forum community.  If people really cared about editing posts they would just do it before hitting the post button.  And some other stuff.


I agree -- I think that PC works so well partly because it doesn't complicate itself with this stuff.

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#55 by Eric T. Cheng
2003-03-25 20:33:14
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Then start paying attention.  This is not the first time that question was asked and a response provided.


I didn't think you guys were serious that GOP meant "Grand Olde Party."

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#56 by yotsuya
2003-03-25 20:34:19
It does. I posted that a few days ago.

Walt Whitman once said, "I see great things in baseball. It's our game, the American game. It will repair our losses and be a blessing to us." You could look it up.
#57 by Hugin
2003-03-25 20:35:23
lmccain@nber.org
I think that being able to edit a post within say, five minutes of posting would be nice, in order to fix "doh!" problems. But I assume coding that would be tricky.
#58 by Shadarr
2003-03-25 20:36:46
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
YF,

I read most of that article, and didn't see anything about why post editing is bad.
#59 by AnalFissure
2003-03-25 20:36:52
I agree the song sounds outrageous when taken in the context of the war with Iraq, but maybe the song was written in response to protestests of the war in Afghanistan. If that's the case, I don't think it's so bad, even though I don't particularly agree with it.
#60 by yotsuya
2003-03-25 20:38:09
Hugin-

I agree. I think GameSpy's forums let you correct your posts within a certain amount of time.

Walt Whitman once said, "I see great things in baseball. It's our game, the American game. It will repair our losses and be a blessing to us." You could look it up.
#61 by Russ
2003-03-25 20:40:52
Creole Ned
the Grammar Nazi's work is done

That work is never ending. On that subject, your use of seven exclamation points was excessively gratuitous. Everyone knows that anything more than three is overkill.

There's two kinds of people in the world. People with guns and people who dig.
#62 by chris
2003-03-25 20:42:32
cwb@shaithis.com http://www.cerebraldebris.com
Our forums give a three minute window where a user can edit his posts without "EDITED BY" showing up at the beginning of them.

Personally, I think post-editing on this board would get abused like crazy.

-chris
#63 by Chunkstyle
2003-03-25 20:43:51
I'm just happy that PC doesn't let you include giant jpgs in your signature, like way too many game sites do.

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#64 by Russ
2003-03-25 20:45:30
Eric T. Cheng
Since you like links so much, here ya go: GOP

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#65 by LoneStar
2003-03-25 20:45:53
cwcraig64@hotmail.com
Being from the south, we should not be subjected to the grammer nazi because trailer park speak is in a class by itself.

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#66 by Dethstryk
2003-03-25 20:48:37
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I remember a conversation here a long, long time ago about being not able to edit posts. It was during the time of Andy's hijinks, so not being able to edit your posts really helped out with all of that.

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#67 by m0nty
2003-03-25 20:57:15
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Caryn (#25):
We're also not rounding up Middle Eastern Americans and putting them in concentration camps.

Two words: Guantanamo Bay.
#68 by Caryn
2003-03-25 21:00:28
carynlaw@pacbell.net http://www.hellchick.net
#67 m0nty
Caryn (#25):
We're also not rounding up Middle Eastern Americans and putting them in concentration camps.

Two words: Guantanamo Bay.


Not the same thing.

"That's an interesting viewpoint supported by many factual references, but you failed to note that I really don't care." - Bailey
#69 by Funkdrunk
2003-03-25 21:05:24
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#67 m0nty
Caryn (#25):
We're also not rounding up Middle Eastern Americans and putting them in concentration camps.

Two words: Guantanamo Bay.

She said Middle Eastern Americans....

Funk.

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#70 by The_Joker
2003-03-25 21:14:38
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Must share this with you!

Bush and Condoleza

George: Condi! Nice to see you. What's happening?

Condi: Sir, I have the report here about the new leader of China.

George: Great. Lay it on me.

Condi: Hu is the new leader of China.

George: That's what I want to know.

Condi: That's what I'm telling you.

George: That's what I'm asking you. Who is the new leader of China?

Condi: Yes.

George: I mean the fellow's name.

Condi: Hu.

George: The guy in China.

Condi: Hu.

George: The new leader of China.

Condi: Hu.

George: The Chinaman!

Condi: Hu is leading China.

George: Now whaddya' asking me for?

Condi: I'm telling you Hu is leading China.

George: Well, I'm asking you. Who is leading China?

Condi: That's the man's name.

George: That's who's name?

Condi: Yes.

George: Will you or will you not tell me the name of the new leader of China?

Condi: Yes, sir.

George: Yassir? Yassir Arafat is in China? I thought he was in the Middle East.

Condi: That's correct.

George: Then who is in China?

Condi: Yes, sir.

George: Yassir is in China?

Condi: No, sir.

George: Then who is?

Condi: Yes, sir.

George: Yassir?

Condi: No, sir.

George: Look, Condi. I need to know the name of the new leader of China. Get me the Secretary General of the U.N. on the phone.

Condi: Kofi?

George: No, thanks.

Condi: You want Kofi?

George: No.

Condi: You don't want Kofi.

George: No. But now that you mention it, I could use a glass of milk. And then get me the U.N.

Condi: Yes, sir.

George: Not Yassir! The guy at the U.N.

Condi: Kofi?

George: Milk! Will you please make the call?

Condi: And call who?

George: Who is the guy at the U.N?

Condi: Hu is the guy in China.

George: Will you stay out of China?!

Condi: Yes, sir.

George: And stay out of the Middle East! Just get me the guy at the U.N.

Condi: Kofi.

George: All right! With cream and two sugars. Now get on the phone.

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#71 by Eric T. Cheng
2003-03-25 21:15:46
erictcheng@hotmail.com
Two words: Guantanamo Bay.


That houses Afghan Talibans and Arab al Qaeda terrorists.

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#72 by Warren Marshall
2003-03-25 21:16:49
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#70

What?
#73 by Neale
2003-03-25 21:17:45
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er...

um...

fucked that up, didn't I?

You can't derail this train of idiocy, Shadarr. Not even with a big fat cow of logic on the tracks. - Bailey
#74 by Eric T. Cheng
2003-03-25 21:17:50
erictcheng@hotmail.com
Who?

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#75 by m0nty
2003-03-25 21:18:23
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I would love, I say LOVE, to hear your explanation as to why Guantanamo Bay is not like Iraq holding US POWs. LOVE.
#76 by Neale
2003-03-25 21:18:59
neale@pimurho.co.uk www.pimurho.co.uk
Actually, I hadn't fucked anything up. I typed something, hit "preview" by accident (somehow hit TAB followed by space) and thought I'd posted. So I posted again to say I'd fucked up. Except I hadn't. Until I posted it.

Should I just go now?

You can't derail this train of idiocy, Shadarr. Not even with a big fat cow of logic on the tracks. - Bailey
#77 by Eric T. Cheng
2003-03-25 21:19:55
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Who?

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#78 by m0nty
2003-03-25 21:20:07
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#79 by Funkdrunk
2003-03-25 21:21:52
jflavius@bellatlantic.net
#75 m0nty
I would love, I say LOVE, to hear your explanation as to why Guantanamo Bay is not like Iraq holding US POWs. LOVE.


That's not what she said.  Go back to post #25.  She doesn't make that comparison at all.

Funk.

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#80 by Neale
2003-03-25 21:22:40
neale@pimurho.co.uk www.pimurho.co.uk
Can I stay? I promise to be good.

You can't derail this train of idiocy, Shadarr. Not even with a big fat cow of logic on the tracks. - Bailey
#81 by Hugin
2003-03-25 21:22:54
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Monty, I think the point being argued is that Guantanamo Bay isn't like Japanese American internment camps in WW2. I don't think anyone, even the US government, is disputing Iraq's right to hold prisoners of war, as long as they're treated properly.
#82 by Creole Ned
2003-03-25 21:25:43
Russ

That work is never ending. On that subject, your use of seven exclamation points was excessively gratuitous. Everyone knows that anything more than three is overkill.

My keyboard got excited. It doesn't get out much.

I think a short window of five minutes would be fine for editing posts. If some people abuse it, well, so what? I don't see that as a compelling reason to not implement a useful feature, particularly since this is already an unmoderated forum that lets annonymous people post anything they like.

"I don't bemoan the great paste" - LPMiller
#83 by Neale
2003-03-25 21:26:30
neale@pimurho.co.uk www.pimurho.co.uk
annonymous?

EDIT!

You can't derail this train of idiocy, Shadarr. Not even with a big fat cow of logic on the tracks. - Bailey
#84 by Creole Ned
2003-03-25 21:28:48
* crying, pleading for forgiveness *

I'm just going to blame my keyboard for that one, too. It obviously has a hidden agenda.

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#85 by Your Friend
2003-03-25 21:29:29

I read most of that article, and didn't see anything about why post editing is bad.


He never specifically says post editing is bad -- he doesn't even go that far, he says post PREVIEW is bad.  The fact that post editing is bad is implied by a continuation of the same logic.


Anyway, I agree that post editing would be hugely abused here.  There's a few boards I don't even read anymore because there are too many people who make flamebait statements and then edit them out later..in the mean time lots of people have responded and you wind up with a thread that doesn't make sense 10 minutes after all the activity has died down, as people all go back and edit, edit, edit stuff to be completely different than what they first said.

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#86 by CheesyPoof
2003-03-25 21:29:59
It we had an edit feature we would be without all these wonderful sarkey grammar nazi posts.  Do we really want to give that up?
#87 by Your Friend
2003-03-25 21:32:03
For reference, what I mean above is you wind up with threads like the above, where the topic jumps and you can't understand why.  Except above it wasn't due to post editing, but m0nty's extremely faulty logic.  When did Iraqi POWs enter into the discussion?

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